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eat to yr meter
« on: July 24, 2016, 10:34:20 PM »
like i had said i detail tested my meal last night
i had cream veg soup, salad, a steak with mashed potatoes n some fresh lime soda water with a splenda
here are my numbers
before food 102
30 minutes after 128
60 minutes 137
120 minutes 132
after that i wanted to check but didnt. had some urgent calls
what r yr views on my experince
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Re: eat to yr meter
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2016, 12:42:46 AM »
There are 2 specifics that I can make out from that data

1) It's important to stay under 140 at the 1 hr mark and you were able to achieve that.
2) You should be able to return to ~ 120 mark by the 2nd hour. Your drop is 5 points from the peak of 137 which means that your 2nd stage insulin response is compromised.

The overall rise is 35 points & that is good news as one should not go beyond 40 points with a meal. If you try that meal again without the mashed potatoes maybe the outcome will be different & more to your liking. 
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Re: eat to yr meter
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2016, 03:50:35 AM »
Your drop is 5 points from the peak of 137 which means that your 2nd stage insulin response is compromised.

Interesting. Skb, please excuse me if this is a dumb question but what is the 2nd stage respone. Can you please explain ?
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Re: eat to yr meter
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2016, 07:39:17 AM »
The pancreatic insulin response to a meal takes place in 2 phases or stages. The first stage response is a rapid flush of stored insulin which has been produced & accumulated since the last meal.
The 2nd stage release of insulin is after the stored hormone has been exhausted. It is freshly produced, is much more slower & gradual. Both of these stages correspond (more or less) to the 1 hr & 2 hr marks, hence these timings for PP tests.
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Re: eat to yr meter
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2016, 11:22:19 PM »
adding 2 + 2 i see that my insulin production is compromised
which leads to some stored one being pumped rapidly
but then i slow down a bit
is that a correct assessment ?
what can i do to improve that
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Re: eat to yr meter
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2016, 04:56:42 AM »
Thanks. Understanding the processes at play makes things a lot clearer for us newbies.
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Re: eat to yr meter
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2016, 07:49:29 AM »
rocky....one brief comment, do you know if the cream used to make the soup was Heavy Whipping Cream?  All other forms of milk/cream have excessive carbs.....that could also be part of the variances....

Also, for me, anytime I get up over 125 or so, I get nervous because I know my meter is not totally accurate.   So always take that into account.  I try and keep my high at or below 120 when testing a food.....if I get up to 130, I will alter the food I tested or not eat it anymore....

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Re: eat to yr meter
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2016, 01:44:44 PM »
Also Rocky, what veggies were in the soup? Peas & carrots would not be good choices.
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Re: eat to yr meter
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2016, 12:14:08 AM »
yes thr were carrots n peas in the soup  ???
will find out abt the cream
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Re: eat to yr meter
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2016, 08:18:01 PM »
skb, thanks for that explanation!  I don't always understand how things work, any new information is always welcome.

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Re: eat to yr meter
« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2016, 10:53:30 PM »
i dont think the cream was the one u mentione timewise
i saw the packet it didnt say whipping or anything like that
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Re: eat to yr meter
« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2016, 01:29:50 AM »
adding 2 + 2 i see that my insulin production is compromised
which leads to some stored one being pumped rapidly
but then i slow down a bit
is that a correct assessment ?
what can i do to improve that

I don't know if anything can be done to improve that because how much insulin your pancreatic beta cells produce if impossible to measure. What you can do is improve the numbers & the consequences. Eat in a way so as to reduce your dependence on insulin and make do with what you can easily produce, thereby also giving relief & extended life to your pancreatic cells. Hope this is clear ?
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Re: eat to yr meter
« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2016, 01:50:31 AM »
thanx boss
u've put things in perspective n clearly
watch what u eat n if in doubt eat to the meter  ;D
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