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Offline gunsmith

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Doc not supportive
« on: December 05, 2017, 11:32:18 PM »
Hello mates,

I read through the articles as advised. The mainstay for this seems to be dietary change. I'm a bit skeptical about the approach. However, I did take this up with my doc who strongly advised me not to fall for the trap (his words).

I don't think I can do this without his consent. 

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Re: Doc not supportive
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2017, 10:06:04 AM »
I think the most important thing is, are you happy with your doctors treatment of your diabetes and is your blood sugar staying within acceptable limits ?  I have had diabetes for 24 years and for 20 of those years I followed doctors advice and relied on meds to try and control my blood sugar.  I believed that I was doing as good as could be because my doctors told me I was.  It was when my A1c kept climbing and my doctor ignored it that I started doing my own research and found that a lot of the "conventional wisdom" is just flat out wrong.  I have suffered some of the effects of high blood sugar because under doctors guidance my blood sugar was just too high.  Research has found that blood sugar over 140 mg/dl (7.76 mmol/l) causes organ damage so staying below that is important.  I quit my doctor because he also did not do anything to help me and I started to control my blood sugar with a LCHF (low carb/high fat) diet and was able to discontinue my medication.  This is not a trap !  This is just common sense, reduce carb intake to a level where you can safely keep your blood sugar within the limits you want.  I am able to stay between 70 mg/dl and 120 mg/dl just with diet and you could also.  There has been a lot of research on this and it is not trying to sell something or fool people.  Do your own research.  One of the best places to start is with Jenny Ruhl's website at : http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/
She is a diabetic who has done massive research on diabetes and there is a wealth of information there.
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Re: Doc not supportive
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2017, 11:47:02 AM »
Your doctor is wrong . . . Wally tells the whole truth of the matter - pay attention, gunsmith!

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Re: Doc not supportive
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2017, 02:14:25 PM »
Hello mates,

I read through the articles as advised. The mainstay for this seems to be dietary change. I'm a bit skeptical about the approach. However, I did take this up with my doc who strongly advised me not to fall for the trap (his words).

I don't think I can do this without his consent.

I have an online friend who is from Australia and has type 2 diabetes.  He controls his diabetes with just diet and exercise.  If watching his carbs has benefited him in a positive manner, would you consider that it might also benefit you?  I can understand your doctor advising you to be careful, but I sure don't understand why he thinks watching your carbohydrate intake is a trap.

I hope you will think about it some more and carefully consider giving low carb and high fat a trial period to see if it works well for you.

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Re: Doc not supportive
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2017, 06:57:49 PM »
Like Shanny said, there’s not much to add after Wally’s reply. Read it a couple of times if you like. There are 2 additional things i’d like you to consider;

1. At some point in the initial stages of diagnosis we were all doubtful of using diet as a primary tool to fight higher blood glucose. By us, I mean not only members of this forum, but 100s & 1000s of other friends on other forums, blogs, FB communities and the likes.

2. I always like to think of a doctor’s knowledge base as old as his age. That is true everywhere but more so in India. Students get into medical school at around age 18-20 and their books are based on knowledge at least that many years earlier. After they finish their studies, not many of them invest time & effort in updating that knowledge.

How difficult is it to monitor your BG levels over a period of time and decide for yourself if things are working ? And then give LCHF a try and monitor it as well, then compare the two. Voila !!! You have a treatment plan.
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Re: Doc not supportive
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2017, 11:38:30 PM »
Gunsmith,

FYI, I’m a live example of the members mentioned by skb. I came here by a stroke of luck. Read the content, thought about it, and said to myself, why the heck not. And then the people here guided me every time I had a doubt or a question. I strongly suggest you do the same. What’s there to lose ? You can always go back to the doctor when ever you feel like. If I may add, his method is a trap, a drug trap. But you decide.
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Re: Doc not supportive
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2017, 04:55:56 PM »
Gunsmith,

You have to take control or your own health. Many/most doctors won't vary from the line they are told to toe. It isn't their toes/fingers/feet/sight that will be amputated/lost if you follow their biased advice.

Do as skb suggested, try the dr's way and test a lot. Then follow lc/hf  for at least a month and again, test a lot. Look at the numbers and see which way works the best.

I was diagnosed with an A1c of 9.5% with fasting of 243 in Feb of 2012. I immediately went online and researched, joined forums and found out about lc/hf eating. In just a few months my A1c was in the 5% range and fastings were in the 80's. This way of eating does really work, give it a chance.
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T-2 dx 2/2012 FBG 243 A1c 9.5%
6/2012 A1c 5.7%  In the 4% A1c club since July 2013. 12-2016 A1c 5.1%. 6-2018 A1c 5.3%.
No meds since 3/2015, diet controlled.  Minimal exercise.